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  Top 10: Apostate Power Rankings -Who are/were the best apostates?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  i only know a few like franz.

  i rank him #1. then theres that jwsurvey guy and jwfacts guy.

  and the silent lambs lady.

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  If you only know Ray Franz, then he is easily the most effective apostate ever, to you.

  I never joined the Church of Franz because I left the Watchtower before he did, not only date-wise but I left at an earlier age than he did.

  I have had the good fortune to have "met" many apostates, some while they were alive and others only through their writings, whether they were alive or dead at the time I came to know them. Some I know better - more thoroughly - than others.

  Each of apostates I mention has contributed something to the XJW community, E UNUM PLURIBUS.
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  What is the deal with the "this is the last memorial" comments from my JW?

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  the guy i know was saying this the other day.. "it's been suggested this may be the last one", or words to that effect.. where & by whom?.

  is this doing the rounds?.

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  should have been:

  Will this memorial be our last? (1 Cor. 11:26) Probably not, but count on Jehovah's "faithful slave" to play you moronic puppets until the strings break. You'll gladly gulp whatever bilge-water kool-aid we offer you. Oh, and we need more of your money, so cough it up, or you might die at Armageddon, and you wouldn't like THAT, would you?
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  Top 10: Apostate Power Rankings -Who are/were the best apostates?

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i only know a few like franz.

  i rank him #1. then theres that jwsurvey guy and jwfacts guy.

  and the silent lambs lady.

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  Among the best, in no particular order, are:

  Merwin Fogh

  Antony Wills

  The brothers Sadlack ( Emil & Otto)

  Roy D. & Maud Goodrich

  F. H. Robison

  M. L. McPhail

  William J. Schnell

  Barbara G. Harrison

  Kyria Abrahams

  Diane Wilson

  "Beth Shan"

  "Angus Stocking"

  Poul Bregninge

  James Zimmerman

  Joy Castro

  John Rippin

  Richard Rawe

  Douglas D. Checketts

  Rick & Inez Fearon
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  Todays wt study, a query, no oxymoron jokes !!!!!!

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wonder, is this a new doctrine and when did "reason and scripture" take place.. .

  page 25 paragraph 10 dec 15 2013 study wt.

  10 the bread that the apostles could see and would soon partake of meant jesus body.

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  Be forewarned: Queries will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
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  What is the deal with the "this is the last memorial" comments from my JW?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the guy i know was saying this the other day.. "it's been suggested this may be the last one", or words to that effect.. where & by whom?.

  is this doing the rounds?.

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  This is a symptom of the insanity induced in people by The Watchtower. Next year he will probably deny he said it.

  Jehovah's Witnesses yearn for Armageddon the way an alcoholic yearns for his next drink.

  Armageddon will be the event that frees them from all worldly cares and proves that THEY were right and everyone else was wrong.

  The leadership of the WTB&TS has perfected the art of leading people on a few days, a few weeks, a few months at a time until the convert's entire life has been given away in hope of a Great Heaven-Sent Banquet that never arrives.

  One quirk of human psychology that makes this possible is that humans HATE to admit (to themselves or anyone else) that they made a MISTAKE. We see this in all aspects of human behavior: selecting mates, accepting jobs, making investments, deciding what to eat for their next meal.

  By comparison, CATS do not suffer from this character defect.
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  Can god see into the future?

  by DuvanMuvan in

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  2. beliefs

  this is something that's been bothering me for a while.. if god could see into the future, why has he allowed so many bad things to happen?

  for example in the garden of eden.

  he should have known from the beginning what would happen.if there was even the tiniest chance that they'd eat the fruit then god obviously didn't think it would be benefical to, idk, prevent it from happening?

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  Q.: If god could see into the future, why has he allowed so many bad things to happen?

  A.: He's fucking with you, man!
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  I want my donations back!

  by Hortenzie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to ask wt for my donations back.

  i live in canada and i have income tax receipts from them so i can prove how much i gave them.... anybody ever tried something like that or heard about somebody doing it?

  what approach should i take?.

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  Q.: What approach should i take?

  A.: Hit your head against the wall until you get a better idea.
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  Question to atheists: if there is no creator/god---

  by prologos in

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  2. friends

  if you are sure there is no god, do you then believe that we,our minds, are the highest intelligence?

  not just of the universe, but the cosmos?.

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  Q.: if you are sure there is no god, do you then believe that we,our minds, are the highest intelligence? not just of the universe, but the cosmos?

  A.: I don't know, I haven't met them all yet.
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  If you wrote book about JW's what title would you give it?

  by LogCon in

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  2. friends

  many, after leaving or being cast out of 'the society,' have felt so strongly so as to write a book.

  some well thought out and good reading.. my questions are the following:.

  if you were to write such a book what title would you give it ?.

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  "My Mother Was Is a Dope"
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  Hell or no hell

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about a year ago i had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my jw relatives attend.

  i asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education.

  as anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one.

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  Sorry if I "harshed your mellow," never_a_jw.

  I was raised a JW from the age of 7-ish, was a pioneer and a Ministerial Servant in my congregation and gave the 1 hour public talk on Sunday. Then my brains kicked in; today I'm an atheist and hold no fondness for parasitic metaphysicians.

  ...but I can speak JW if the situation demands it. Perhaps this is one such occasion, eh?